Escape from Prison Planet

[Hetware]

I know I am not the only person banned from Prison Planet.  I really want other people to know that the moderation team there are extremely dishonest.  They claim that when they ban a person it shows in their user profile.  That is simply wrong.  They also regularly accuse people of trolling when all the person is doing is presenting an alternative view. 

This really isn't my forte.  I don't like to spend my time playing Spanky's Clubhouse.

[trixi1]

Hi Hetware,

I didn't always agree with your views over there, however, I respected the fact that you had your views and wanted to share them. Yes, I agree that there are some that right away want to call someone a troll when I don't personally believe that they were.

My latest thread on there turned into a very hot topic for some (if you want to click on it, click here originally called "The Auschwitz 'Gas
Chamber' Illusion" named after the article's name) and yes, the senior mod there decided to change the name of it and called me a holocaust denior/agent provocateur, of which, I am absolutely not one. I simply posted the fact that the numbers didn't add up, have been proven and I refused to participate in that thread anymore. In fact, I decided to take a break from that forum because I will not play a part in a forum of which my view is construed by someone as inciting hatred and denying something of which I have never portrayed or believed.

There is someone in that thread who has picked up that I started a legitimate thread, wanted people to openly talk and debate it, and they suspect that I've been banned from there. I haven't been banned, but again, have decided to take a break. I don't know when (or if) I'll go back on, however, I still like to read the posts as they still have some very important topics discussed on there and I feel that forums are a very important and lively way for people to share articles and opinions of import.

Thought I'd share these words with you and again, if you feel that you can post anything of import anywhere, do so, don't let people try to shut you up. If someone is trolling (legitimately are a troll) than I personally decide to ignore them and use anything they post for my personal benefit of knowledge. I think everyone should do the same.

Blessings!

[staxbrix]

Welcome to the forums,
I been banned from most not all. Even all the Ron Paul Forums when I run A Ron Paul Forum?  Mine much better non censored one http://ronpaulforum.info

Some people just like to argue others are there to get under your skin. Anyone who has a view is a threat now. Doesn't matter what side your on.

Prison Planet has never banned me and I do spam a lot... Its all good info though. So maybe it was a view that just pissed off a certain mod. Alex Jones has been attacked for not going after the Israel 9/11 connection. Even after he attacked Micheal Moore for the same. So maybe the mods are trying to impose his views or limit criticism.

David Icke says some far out things but who else isn't allowed to speak? Alex gets websites and raido shows. Icke can't even have a book signing.I remember Alex saying Icke was a loon.

We're happy to have you here anyway.  I could care less if you argue every detail. As long as the revolution grows.

The site has only been live since March but we been published by Rense, UrbanSurival, Prison Planet, Info Wars,Texe Meeres, etc.

[WAR ON YOU]

I think you might hit a nerve, I have many post over there and they sticky some, ignore others. I never noticed my post being changed but I will keep a eye on it.

Kinda ironic when your banned at a place thats fighting for freedom and supposed to stand for liberty. Happens to me too I think I have you  all beat.

We're in this together and we need to shed light on the issues any way possible. Scare Tactics, Spam, Arguing, what ever works. We need some real change for sure.

[trixi1]

I think you might hit a nerve, I have many post over there and they sticky some, ignore others. I never noticed my post being changed but I will keep a eye on it.

Kinda ironic when your banned at a place thats fighting for freedom and supposed to stand for liberty. Happens to me too I think I have you  all beat.

We're in this together and we need to shed light on the issues any way possible. Scare Tactics, Spam, Arguing, what ever works. We need some real change for sure.

You are right in the fact that from early on, many were calling Hetware and many others trolls without letting them voice a discenting view or show opposition. I really hope that you allow this forum to grow with honest debate. You will probably find yourself disagreeing with many an article or view posted here and I hope that it just allows others to join in the discussion and debate. I understand that the job of a moderator is to clean up or organize a forum, however, I really was put off when my opinion has been ignored asking them to give people an honest chance. Not everyone is a troll (in fact, very few are) but when you attack like that and change thread names to something that doesn't even match what the thread is about, I am against that. Again, I hope you allow for honest debate here. I'm hoping that some of the mods over there change their mind and their views and admit that they're not always right. Let's hope and pray for a change, otherwise, there are so many viable forums on the net that can and are being used to inform the sleeping people out there. Let this forum be one of those and I hope I can help it grow, as others that I see contributing as well. Let's make this forum one to be proud of and make it know to many people.

Thank you WARONYOU for making this forum. I read many a post of yours over there and view you as very insightful and informed. As has been pointed out, we're all in this together, let's all help out.

Blessings!

[Hetware]

Hi Hetware,

I didn't always agree with your views over there, however, I respected the fact that you had your views and wanted to share them. Yes, I agree that there are some that right away want to call someone a troll when I don't personally believe that they were.

My latest thread on there turned into a very hot topic for some (if you want to click on it, click here originally called "The Auschwitz 'Gas
Chamber' Illusion" named after the article's name) and yes, the senior mod there decided to change the name of it and called me a holocaust denior/agent provocateur, of which, I am absolutely not one. I simply posted the fact that the numbers didn't add up, have been proven and I refused to participate in that thread anymore. In fact, I decided to take a break from that forum because I will not play a part in a forum of which my view is construed by someone as inciting hatred and denying something of which I have never portrayed or believed.

There is someone in that thread who has picked up that I started a legitimate thread, wanted people to openly talk and debate it, and they suspect that I've been banned from there. I haven't been banned, but again, have decided to take a break. I don't know when (or if) I'll go back on, however, I still like to read the posts as they still have some very important topics discussed on there and I feel that forums are a very important and lively way for people to share articles and opinions of import.

Thought I'd share these words with you and again, if you feel that you can post anything of import anywhere, do so, don't let people try to shut you up. If someone is trolling (legitimately are a troll) than I personally decide to ignore them and use anything they post for my personal benefit of knowledge. I think everyone should do the same.

Blessings!

Well I have been banned.  Yanaar was a big part of it.  She has a lot more influence on that forum than can be seen on the face of things.  They've also deleted dozens of my posts. 

It's always difficult to determine whether people really are brainwashed by the mass deception, or are part of the conscious effort to deceive.  I'll give you a big hint.  Nobody on http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/ believes in The Holocaust(TM).  We aren't completely sure, but many of us believe that Ben Cramer may well be Jewish.

Here's one of my blog posts on the issue: http://vehme.blogspot.com/2007/11/ideological-bigotry-on-internet.html

I find it revealing that this one issue causes me to be excluded from more groups than all of my other radical opinions combined.  I'm a global warming skeptic, a peak oil skeptic, non-Judeo-Christian-Moslem, pro-environment, ZPG advocate, 9/11 Truther, no Islamakazi, Pentagon Planer, WZO did it.  Right there is enough to piss just about everybody off in one way or another.  But let me not doubt The Holocaust(TM).  Haeresis est maxima, holocaustum non credere

[trixi1]

Hi Hetware,

I didn't always agree with your views over there, however, I respected the fact that you had your views and wanted to share them. Yes, I agree that there are some that right away want to call someone a troll when I don't personally believe that they were.

My latest thread on there turned into a very hot topic for some (if you want to click on it, click here originally called "The Auschwitz 'Gas
Chamber' Illusion" named after the article's name) and yes, the senior mod there decided to change the name of it and called me a holocaust denior/agent provocateur, of which, I am absolutely not one. I simply posted the fact that the numbers didn't add up, have been proven and I refused to participate in that thread anymore. In fact, I decided to take a break from that forum because I will not play a part in a forum of which my view is construed by someone as inciting hatred and denying something of which I have never portrayed or believed.

There is someone in that thread who has picked up that I started a legitimate thread, wanted people to openly talk and debate it, and they suspect that I've been banned from there. I haven't been banned, but again, have decided to take a break. I don't know when (or if) I'll go back on, however, I still like to read the posts as they still have some very important topics discussed on there and I feel that forums are a very important and lively way for people to share articles and opinions of import.

Thought I'd share these words with you and again, if you feel that you can post anything of import anywhere, do so, don't let people try to shut you up. If someone is trolling (legitimately are a troll) than I personally decide to ignore them and use anything they post for my personal benefit of knowledge. I think everyone should do the same.

Blessings!

Well I have been banned.  Yanaar was a big part of it.  She has a lot more influence on that forum than can be seen on the face of things.  They've also deleted dozens of my posts. 

It's always difficult to determine whether people really are brainwashed by the mass deception, or are part of the conscious effort to deceive.  I'll give you a big hint.  Nobody on http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/ believes in The Holocaust(TM).  We aren't completely sure, but many of us believe that Ben Cramer may well be Jewish.

Here's one of my blog posts on the issue: http://vehme.blogspot.com/2007/11/ideological-bigotry-on-internet.html

I find it revealing that this one issue causes me to be excluded from more groups than all of my other radical opinions combined.  I'm a global warming skeptic, a peak oil skeptic, non-Judeo-Christian-Moslem, pro-environment, ZPG advocate, 9/11 Truther, no Islamakazi, Pentagon Planer, WZO did it.  Right there is enough to piss just about everybody off in one way or another.  But let me not doubt The Holocaust(TM).  Haeresis est maxima, holocaustum non credere

I'm sorry to hear that they banned you. I'm not sure how yanaar or some others gained any more influence on there than myself or others, and when I shared my words, articles and opinions, I thought they were honorable, were respected (if not agreed upon), I could at least post them. I did start a few different threads on that forum showing that I am against any zionist agenda, no matter who it is (whether truly Israeli, adopted into Jewish faith, or serving a front that benefits them but is against us as a people). My latest one was the biggie. I still stand by my post. I won't apologize for it because years ago I started questioning official lines regarding the numbers. When I find that the information out there has been shoved down our throats without so much as being allowed to question things, I won't be a part of that.

There are many on that forum who, I'm sad to say, have started to show that they're not thinking for themselves. When one person says something, many others fall in line with a group-think mentality. I think that this is the very way that 'the elite' have been allowed to carry on in this world with impunity. Nobody is gutsy enough to voice discenting thought or opinion. I say that if there is more proof out there that the holocaust or other events have happened exactly in the way that they say they did, then who does it harm to question things? I don't get how they can not see that if the complete truth were to come out about the holocaust (of which the jewish people cannot claim exclusivity) this would bring the NWO house of cards down completely. But because they're pushing it on people more and more, claiming anybody who questions things an anti-semite (of which they've also tried to claim exclusivity), how can anybody in that same crowd even question the official version of 911 then? One goes with the other. But they don't see it, I guess.

I want anybody to be free to share their opinion. I want people to be able to disagree without screaming about hate laws, without harming another. Why don't they see that they're harming their own cause? Trying to shut me or you or others down for not sharing a group-think attitude is anything but freedom of thought or expression--it's what I call controlled thought, expression and even might/can be a version of brainwashing. I won't be a part of that--ever.

If you or someone else disagrees with me, I'm fine with that. That's what makes people individuals and unique. But playing into that kind of action is what's going to lead people to the current camps if it continues.


BTW, there were a few people on that forum who contacted me directly and praised me for my conviction, my honesty, my firmness in stance and unwavering want for total truth. There's also some people that have posted directly into the forum to state same. It was more of the recent that made me question if I should be on there. I haven't even logged in to contact anybody because I believe I need to keep a distance from there for now, maybe permanently. I think there's some mods who shouldn't be mods. I also think there's some on there who should be mods and are not. That's not a job I personally want nor ever sought but I hope they see that they're hurting their own cause at times doing this sort of thing.

Anyway, the only time I would be in support of someone being banned is they were physically doing something to that forum that stopped it from running or physically threatened someone. That is the firm line I take and I won't apologize to anyone for it.

Done my rant!

[forfun@freedom]

Good day to you freedom hungry people.

To get one thing out in the open I would like you to follow this link:

http://www.ronpaulforum.com/showthread.php?p=333397#post333397

Have a nice day..............

Ron Paul for President

[trixi1]

Good day to you freedom hungry people.

To get one thing out in the open I would like you to follow this link:

http://www.ronpaulforum.com/showthread.php?p=333397#post333397

Have a nice day..............

Ron Paul for President

Thank you for the welcome. Yes, I believe we're all freedom loving people. I'm kind of curious, the post you provided a link that talked about a member there, who is now a member here, of leaving. Were you trying to show all of us that this is happening elsewhere? That's what I got from it. If not, please clarify. I personally have felt that I couldn't fit in everywhere, not everyone can take my spiritual conviction and because they disagree with me want to exclude me. I for one don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me and I hope that anyone reading this particular thread started by someone who has felt that very thing feels welcome here. I don't want this forum to start to be a one-people/one-think kind of talking board. For that, there'd be no point in logging in, would there? I really want everyone to say what they feel, think and offer every viewpoint (keeping it preferably clean) but making a valid point. At least, I hope that's going to be the outcome.

Again, thanks for the link. I'm not a member there, but have read posts before on that forum. I may consider signing up.

Take care.

[forfun@freedom]

Dear Trixi1,

No Trixi1...you didn't fit the bill. What I did notice in the short time I had visited  'WARONYOU' was that your a champion in replies/topics. Good for you and nothing wrong with that. That is what I also admired in Starbix but like the admin explaned later was fully undertsandeble to me. Nobody should try to lure others going to his own web-site...maybe I'm seeing it wrong here but thats how i think about it. I hope to see you appear making comments on www.ronpaulforum.com while Starbix left a big gap there. I hope Starbix is comming back though.....I hope he understands that things don't work there as he would like to. Nobody there will hold anything against him...I'm sure about that.....
I believe that RON PAUL people are GOOD PEOPLE and Staxbix is just one of us...not perfect....but definitly not bad.

[trixi1]

Dear Trixi1,

No Trixi1...you didn't fit the bill. What I did notice in the short time I had visited  'WARONYOU' was that your a champion in replies/topics. Good for you and nothing wrong with that. That is what I also admired in Starbix but like the admin explaned later was fully undertsandeble to me. Nobody should try to lure others going to his own web-site...maybe I'm seeing it wrong here but thats how i think about it. I hope to see you appear making comments on www.ronpaulforum.com while Starbix left a big gap there. I hope Starbix is comming back though.....I hope he understands that things don't work there as he would like to. Nobody there will hold anything against him...I'm sure about that.....
I believe that RON PAUL people are GOOD PEOPLE and Staxbix is just one of us...not perfect....but definitly not bad.

Thanks for the clarification and sorry for the misunderstanding. Again, I'll think about signing up there.

Take care.

[staxbrix]

I knew something fishy was going on there. I would post the newest Paul video and there was 1 view. I seen it on a few threads so I said screw it. I realized they had some  kinda no follow/ignore BS.

Heres a topic from our mod on another forum that preaches free speech.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=132949
Quote from a member
"I've seen far too much of this attitude across the entire netscape of this revolution and it seems a little egotistical. You may have spent a great deal of time marking your territory around here, but this territory doesn't need your protection from interlopers who's only desire is to spread the news. Would you feel more secure if you could restrict all 18 thousand members here from visiting other forums?"

I started promoting this site on there after they banned him. And within a few days I was banned. I didn't receive any warnings from either sites. We should have a say, did the forum members who liked are post matter? Like most of you I don't consider news spam. Just the porn stuff and flat out buy my shit. I think our mod agrees.

Nystrom runs Daily Paul respectable and its the biggest site.
I check the rankings regular
http://www.politicstopsites.com/
http://www.topronpaulsites.com/

Take that back I been banned at Daily Paul and they deleted all my post.

[lastmovement]

I had problems everywhere.

Prison Planet seems to delete post it doesn't like and edit your article at their will.

Ron Paul forums like to ban people for sharing the news.

Daily Paul has massive threads missing. Some of them have over 300 comments , gone! I don't think this is a mod thing. At least at DP but it could be.

Ron Paul War Room is up one day down the next. Bots post bogus links connected to sex sites. Lately there is no comment they might have fixed the xxx and lost the readers.

God Like Productions bans you every few days. Its a auto spam thing but they lift it.

Every other political forum I get the boot in days. First hot button issue.

[Raven]

  The only influence they have is what you cede to them. I give her and those like her "no quarter". Fluff and bullshit dominate when people having wisdom don't challenge them.
 
  They attack because they are too stupid to debate.The forum has become self-regulated by these fools and the mods just let the natives set the tone.

  Sweet deal isn't it? It is all a psychological game and people who follow the status quo in there are it's most brainwashed participants.Castigated and left out? Congratulations. You can think for yourself.
 
  Some on that forum were more interested in outdoing each other in post counts. Yes. I saw that too. Since when the hell does quantity trump quality?
Some of those here bought into that as well.

  They are not "special". Stop treating them like they are. Yanaar hasn't posted in days and I suspect she has been "corrected" for being too eager to flame people for attention.

  Those of you who have studied the temperament of the forum know who the real contenders are when the topic turns to religion or the holocaust.

  "Atheists" suddenly defend Jews and Christians are called lunatics. My oh my.
What are the pagans to think? It's all a mind f**k.

  Honest people have a hard time with that. I understand. It's not your fault.
Consider the fact that wisdom is not necessarily aligned with schooling or age, but with experience of years and a sincerity for the truth.
 

[rock FM]

hi all


I never signed up and posted there because of the revolting censorship

it got to the point where I only read the 'offtopic/faux" area since at least there you might actually learn something plus it's more interesting



this is a repeating pattern I've seen with several other forums too


re: views

information must be free in order for people to decide for themselves

the road to hell is paved with PC intent


besides the differences between us are tiny compared to TPTB

divide & conquer has been used throughout history because it works so well

but now we have the tool to organize and a window of opportunity to use it before 'WEB 2.0' is implemented

and like in many areas we augment internet here with neighborhood wi-fi



..and yes pirate TV to replace the 'digital switchover' next feb is quite easy

just a VCR plugged into a cable/TV booster and antenna (in other words backwards) covers up to several blocks



media is the whole key

[trixi1]

  The only influence they have is what you cede to them. I give her and those like her "no quarter". Fluff and bullshit dominate when people having wisdom don't challenge them.
 
  They attack because they are too stupid to debate.The forum has become self-regulated by these fools and the mods just let the natives set the tone.

  Sweet deal isn't it? It is all a psychological game and people who follow the status quo in there are it's most brainwashed participants.Castigated and left out? Congratulations. You can think for yourself.
 
  Some on that forum were more interested in outdoing each other in post counts. Yes. I saw that too. Since when the hell does quantity trump quality?
Some of those here bought into that as well.

  They are not "special". Stop treating them like they are. Yanaar hasn't posted in days and I suspect she has been "corrected" for being too eager to flame people for attention.

  Those of you who have studied the temperament of the forum know who the real contenders are when the topic turns to religion or the holocaust.

  "Atheists" suddenly defend Jews and Christians are called lunatics. My oh my.
What are the pagans to think? It's all a mind f**k.

  Honest people have a hard time with that. I understand. It's not your fault.
Consider the fact that wisdom is not necessarily aligned with schooling or age, but with experience of years and a sincerity for the truth.
 

Yes, I quite agree that studying the temperament of a forum gives you the real contenders and they stand out. Quantity does not constitute quality by any means as well. Yes, I do believe that there are some on that forum, as well as others, that are there to insight division, change the course of the forum, if you will. I've been tempted to log in many a time in the last couple days seeing one of those people on there that is trying to hijack it some more and claim things that are untrue. I've also noticed that there's more people falling into the ridiculous group-think talking I mentioned before. See the stickied thread on the general forum page called 'warning to trolls'--ridiculous is actually a minor word for it.

I am not schooled beyond my high school diploma with a completion in a secondary college, in reference to your last comment, but I feel that all of the schooling I did get served no purpose for me other than to make me fall in line with everyone else. Since I started thinking and speaking for myself, I've grown and blossomed into a more genuine and honorable person, at least I've been told this, however, I am very proud of the direction my life has taken. Even though that forum had some that wanted to call me something that I am not, saying that I believe things that I do not believe, that is not enough to stop me from wanting to completely seek full truth and nothing but. I do believe that you can tell the genuine from the fake by a pattern in their words, posts that include articles, opinions and support or attacks of others. I'm not expecting everyone out there to 'buy' what I say I am, judge for yourself. If you accept me, fine, if you don't, fine also. But I feel I have the right to defend the real me, the person I really am. I believe that when someone calls my integrity into question, that person should prove me to be false, otherwise, they show themselves to be very weak with absolutely no supportive argument or reason. Is that so wrong? I don't think so.

That is another reason I am against people outright labelling someone as a troll simply to elevate themselves, as you pointed out. This again shows the integrity, or lack thereof, of the person hashing out the name-calling. This was another reason why I feel that there are some who are a mod on there that shouldn't be because they have seemed to make themselves more important (or believe themselves to be more important) in the eyes of the rest of the members and/or viewers and readers. Personally, I think if they don't change their tactics, that forum will suffer, and that alone will be what will poison the believers and or supporters of Alex Jones and the Watson brothers. I've been spending less time on that forum than I intended to trying to keep up with what people are saying, but instead have been primarily going to the main site. I've found that I go to a couple of main threads there, but my opinion has only been proven more concrete.

Obviously, you and others have noticed the bullying or censorship going on, and it doesn't help anyone to pull those kinds of things. I really hope they see it, but I'm not the one to point it out to them. If someone else wants to say something to them, maybe they'll listen, but I feel that for me, I've now found a new home here and would like to consider this my home among real friends of truth as long as I can contribute and that you want me here. If not, that's okay and I'll go elsewhere if that's the direction I've been pointed in. I don't want to make my opinion above anyone elses and vise-versa. I want people to openly discuss issues and opinions. I know there's 46 members as of my typing this and from what I'm observing, I'm seeing people that are also in support of seeking full truth here. Please don't look at the number of posts a person has because it's many times that the new seed will bring out the biggest of plants in a very short time. That's something to consider. Numbers of posts mean nothing if the quality isn't there. In fact, I kind of wish that forums wouldn't need to do counts but rather just be organized by categories and provide a name for the postee, but oh well, don't assume anything by the numbers. That went on as well on the pp forum, but I digress.

I rant alot sometimes, so please ignore if you please, otherwise, I'm hoping I can belong here contributing what I can, getting rapped if I need to, but also supported where appropriate. I also will do the same for all of you.

Take care,
God Bless!

[trixi1]

re: views

information must be free in order for people to decide for themselves

the road to hell is paved with PC intent

This basically nails everything that's been pointed out. When someone decides to tell me or you what to think or say or feel than everyone is just a robot with no need for being there. That is why it's imperative to keep the foundation of healthy debate and opinion alive. If someone disagrees, than agree to disagree. But if silence on something this important is the result, then expect that forum to come to a very loud crashing thud. I would hope that it changes, but we'll just have to wait and see.

BTW, even though you didn't post over there, I'm glad that you did here and voiced yourself. Keep contributing. Let's make this a forum to be proud of.

Thank you for words--spot on.

[Hetware]

I'm sorry to hear that they banned you. I'm not sure how yanaar or some others gained any more influence on there than myself or others,

I have my suspicions.

and when I shared my words, articles and opinions, I thought they were honorable, were respected (if not agreed upon), I could at least post them. I did start a few different threads on that forum showing that I am against any zionist agenda, no matter who it is (whether truly Israeli, adopted into Jewish faith, or serving a front that benefits them but is against us as a people).

I came under attack for simply stating what I believe to be factual information about Zionism, and providing the original sources upon which I base my conclusions.

My latest one was the biggie. I still stand by my post. I won't apologize for it because years ago I started questioning official lines regarding the numbers. When I find that the information out there has been shoved down our throats without so much as being allowed to question things, I won't be a part of that.

That's only part of the fight for me.  Sure, that's more than enough reason to be outraged, but for me it's personal in more ways than I can say.  IMO The Holocaust(TM) is a racist lie.  Denying The Holocaust(TM) is not racist.  Claiming that it happened is.

There are many on that forum who, I'm sad to say, have started to show that they're not thinking for themselves. When one person says something, many others fall in line with a group-think mentality. I think that this is the very way that 'the elite' have been allowed to carry on in this world with impunity. Nobody is gutsy enough to voice discenting thought or opinion. I say that if there is more proof out there that the holocaust or other events have happened exactly in the way that they say they did, then who does it harm to question things? I don't get how they can not see that if the complete truth were to come out about the holocaust (of which the jewish people cannot claim exclusivity) this would bring the NWO house of cards down completely. But because they're pushing it on people more and more, claiming anybody who questions things an anti-semite (of which they've also tried to claim exclusivity), how can anybody in that same crowd even question the official version of 911 then? One goes with the other. But they don't see it, I guess.

I chalk a lot of it up to intellectual cowardice.  It's a lot easier (for now) to question 9/11 than to question The Holocaust(TM).  9/11 is still in the realm of legend, not quite to the level of orthodox religion.  The Holocaust(TM) is a fundamental tenet of the NWO religion.

There's also some people that have posted directly into the forum to state same. It was more of the recent that made me question if I should be on there. I haven't even logged in to contact anybody because I believe I need to keep a distance from there for now, maybe permanently. I think there's some mods who shouldn't be mods. I also think there's some on there who should be mods and are not. That's not a job I personally want nor ever sought but I hope they see that they're hurting their own cause at times doing this sort of thing.

Anyway, the only time I would be in support of someone being banned is they were physically doing something to that forum that stopped it from running or physically threatened someone. That is the firm line I take and I won't apologize to anyone for it.

Done my rant!

What pisses me off is that Yanaar was clearly trolling.  I even started counting the number of times she tried to bait me.  I don't know what the hell her game is.  I can guess, but that gets hazardous.  She has made herself scarce of late.  I believe she logs in under a different name as well, but it wouldn't be right of me to say who that might be.

[Raven]

What pisses me off is that Yanaar was clearly trolling.  I even started counting the number of times she tried to bait me.  I don't know what the hell her game is.  I can guess, but that gets hazardous.  She has made herself scarce of late.  I believe she logs in under a different name as well, but it wouldn't be right of me to say who that might be.

What would it matter? Like I said, fight fire with fire. She is like many who resort to name calling.

That's only part of the fight for me.  Sure, that's more than enough reason to be outraged, but for me it's personal in more ways than I can say.  IMO The Holocaust(TM) is a racist lie.  Denying The Holocaust(TM) is not racist.  Claiming that it happened is.

The more information that can be posted, the better. There are some in there now who are trying to get that point across.

The Holocaust(TM) is a fundamental tenet of the NWO religion.

Exactly.

I believe she logs in under a different name as well, but it wouldn't be right of me to say who that might be.

Bullshit. What's right about what she and others have done?
You are dealing with people who have no integrity. Remember that.
PM the name. I'll go to bat with her, Hetware.
Trixi, don't sweat it.

[trixi1]

Okay, here's an interesting thing I just noticed with regard to the previous thread I mentioned. They've now blended it into another one here. Talk about a way of burying an important topic and smearing it at the same time.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=32214.msg171689#msg171689 is my original post that was retitled "Holocaust denier provacateur/ignorance thread"

They've buried it in here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=32214.0 titled "I am not an Anti-Semite, I just blame jews for everything"

This is more censorship going on and I'll bet that the senior mod is the one who did it.

[Hetware]

Okay, here's an interesting thing I just noticed with regard to the previous thread I mentioned. They've now blended it into another one here. Talk about a way of burying an important topic and smearing it at the same time.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=32214.msg171689#msg171689 is my original post that was retitled "Holocaust denier provacateur/ignorance thread"

They've buried it in here: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=32214.0 titled "I am not an Anti-Semite, I just blame jews for everything"

This is more censorship going on and I'll bet that the senior mod is the one who did it.

It's not totalitarianism when they do it?  Looks to me "Sane" was responsible for destroying the discussions.  Notice that the poll is gone?  I can only imagine the offensive numbers which led to that reaction.  I wonder if they realize that they ARE the jackbooted thugs of the 21st century.

[Raven]

View it as a challenge. If you are going to make an argument be prepared for incoming. He did not kill the thread. Look at what he said. Read between the lines. You must make a case for continuing the debate. That is what some are trying to do.

[Hetware]

View it as a challenge. If you are going to make an argument be prepared for incoming. He did not kill the thread. Look at what he said. Read between the lines. You must make a case for continuing the debate. That is what some are trying to do.

How do you debate someone when they ban your IP address?  I note that they also deleted content from the thread.  Yes, I can read the board, but I cannot interact with it.

[Raven]

View it as a challenge. If you are going to make an argument be prepared for incoming. He did not kill the thread. Look at what he said. Read between the lines. You must make a case for continuing the debate. That is what some are trying to do.

How do you debate someone when they ban your IP address?  I note that they also deleted content from the thread.  Yes, I can read the board, but I cannot interact with it.

Most people use a proxy. But I am not talking about just those who have been banned(I have not) I am talking about those in there now who are arguing the point.

[Hetware]

View it as a challenge. If you are going to make an argument be prepared for incoming. He did not kill the thread. Look at what he said. Read between the lines. You must make a case for continuing the debate. That is what some are trying to do.

How do you debate someone when they ban your IP address?  I note that they also deleted content from the thread.  Yes, I can read the board, but I cannot interact with it.

Most people use a proxy. But I am not talking about just those who have been banned(I have not) I am talking about those in there now who are arguing the point.

I have been banned repeatedly.  I'm sure I could find another way to morph, but it's not worth it.  The forum is a joke.