Planned Parenthood--Attack on the Family (Go After the Kids)

[trixi1]

If you have a problem with Planned Parenthood as a whole, that's one thing but when they get involved with schools and are forcing the indoctrination and forced thinking patterns into the schools, that is a whole new ballgame.

Look into Planned Parenthood, who started it, who funds it, who pushes their 'programs', etc. And then get back to me. If you want to blindly believe that we have total say without consequences, you can test your theories and yes, it would be nice, but that isn't completely the case.

The fact that you have governments that are the ones insisting kids be 'taught' rather than letting them learn, this is the Pandora's box. It's allowing the state to have control where they have no business being.

I do homeschool, btw. However, that doesn't stop the problems from creeping in. In order to homeschool, we're still required to register with an 'approved' schoolboard, agree to keep things between the school and myself in contact and submit completed work, and so forth. Further, even though this is pretty 'light' at the moment, I've noticed over the last number of years while doing this that the regulations and oversight has increased and we, being the parents, are being treated like we don't know what's best for our kids.

If I sent my children to a school, where they have to sit down and talk and listen to an 'approved' teacher, listening to this crap, I can see that there's an agenda there but many cannot. Many do not have the opportunity, through financial means or familial means, to be able to stay at home and homeschool and so they are forced to send their kids into such situations. You'll also notice, besides taking many of the 'opt-out' options away, if they existed at all, they take your kids and force things upon them that are out of your control, ie. sex ed (indoctrination), vaccines, etc. To have this kind of thing in schools, not just public but it goes on in others as well if they want governmental funding and to have the children there as being given credit for the grades that they earned, then they are forced to take it, shut up and allow their minds to be 'moulded' into state-friendly little blobs that is the intent of the Rockefeller/Rothschild syndrome the world over.

If you feel you have total freedom in this world, the way things are, that is a very naive way of looking at things and you haven't experienced the kind of situation I have described above. I have. And because I see that things are being more controlled as time has been progressing (at least through my kids schooling years), I totally will speak out against this poison, thank you very much.

trixi1

[trixi1]

Oh, and I will not apologize for raising my kids with the family-friendly, traditional views of having a father/mother raising the children who then go on to also support this for their own families in the future.

I can and do accept someone for their differences but it doesn't make me have to agree with what they do when I am against it. I can be friendly, nice but I should also be able to stand up for what I believe to be right and stand against what I believe to be wrong--Period.

If that is a problem to someone, that is up to them to deal with it but I won't apologize for it.

My kids, btw, are some of the most friendly, outgoing and well-behaved kids people come across. Without taking my word for it (parental bias), I am constantly being told this from neighbors, people in the grocery store, parents in events I have my kids enrolled in, etc. It is about teaching acceptance without having to budge on your own personal convictions.

trixi1

[Rainchild]

 

[kashmoney]

you're not googling your answers, are you rainchild?

and you do realize you only have one hour for each segment, right? 

My excellent performance was a result of 10 minutes of work...

[kashmoney]

By not signing it, the gov't is creating more of a problem,

how so?

By placing heat on themselves. There's a world gov't coming, you know it, I know it. Our biggest fault is choosing to fight it from every angle rather than picking the battles we can win, which doesn't produce favourable results. You want to 'stand your ground' on every single issue, go right ahead, just expect the heat. There just comes a time when you (whether you're an individual or group) may look at yourselves, destitute and spiritually empty, pulled down to what some refer to as 'rock bottom' - as a result of standing for your convictions on every fucking issue whether it's income-related, morality-related, feminism, whatever...and you're tired and BROKEN as a result from fighting all those battles for so damn long. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your morality and convictions to your graves. I'm personally seeing the light and that there is a life worth living, within the new laws of the world. I'll fight my battles when I have leverage, but I have to at least give myself a chance to earn it. You do it your way, and I'll do it mine.

[brandon dean]

By not signing it, the gov't is creating more of a problem,

how so?

By placing heat on themselves. There's a world gov't coming, you know it, I know it. Our biggest fault is choosing to fight it from every angle rather than picking the battles we can win, which doesn't produce favourable results. You want to 'stand your ground' on every single issue, go right ahead, just expect the heat. There just comes a time when you (whether you're an individual or group) may look at yourselves, destitute and spiritually empty, pulled down to what some refer to as 'rock bottom' - as a result of standing for your convictions on every fucking issue whether it's income-related, morality-related, feminism, whatever...and you're tired and BROKEN as a result from fighting all those battles for so damn long. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your morality and convictions to your graves. I'm personally seeing the light and that there is a life worth living, within the new laws of the world. I'll fight my battles when I have leverage, but I have to at least give myself a chance to earn it. You do it your way, and I'll do it mine.

well ok... we're all allowed to have our opinions.

but I still don't understand your logic in saying that we should sign a treaty that is not in our best interests.  if we don't sign it, we are not affected by it.  if we sign it, we are affected by it.

choosing our battles is a gray area.  what I mean by that is: how hard is it, and how much of a waste of time is it, to post a few articles condemning the treaty, and maybe put forth an opinion about it?  it doesn't take much time or effort if you're used to seeing the truth for what it is.  i have lost little energy in this debate.

now as far as an inevitable world government, I look at it from the exact opposite perspective.  I don't think there's a chance in living hell that a one world government will ever take shape.  they have already failed, and they are scrambling to rearrange the pieces.

the news is out: over half of americans polled already don't believe the fairy tale of 911, or the JFK assassination, or any of the bullshit they tell us on the news.  people are even starting to realize the moon landings were faked.  people are most certainly waking up in vast degrees, much too fast for the tide to be slowed.  the shadow government of the world has lost it's upper hand, and they know it.  all these treaties and laws meant to subjugate our freedom even more are nothing but desperate ploys to regain their solid ground, which has disappeared below their feet.

all that remains is the spark which starts the firestorm.  once enough people become convinced that enough other people see the light, there will be no stopping us.

I've seen so much astronomical progress for the freedom movement since I began that it's like a whole new world. twenty years ago, no one wanted to hear anything I had to say about this stuff.  I was laughed at and ridiculed by pretty much everyone.  in fact, many of the same people who laughed at me and dismissed what I had to say twenty years ago are now on the same page as me.

nowadays, the opposite is true.  some people still try to dismiss what I say, but they are rare, and their passion isn't really behind it. but most that I talk to now are more than open to what I have to say, although some can't take it when I do say my piece.

here's the deal:  there is no compromise.  they interpret compromise as a victory for them, and so do I.  there are MILLIONS of people in this movement in the US alone, and that more than provides the energy needed to not be at "rock bottom" or "spiritually empty."  there is absolutely no reason to sign this treaty.

as a matter of fact, who are you referring to as spiritually empty?  who has hit rock bottom?

that seemed like a very bitter reply, but I'm not sure who the bitterness was directed towards...

and for the record, it's not hard to "stand my ground."  it doesn't take anything out of me, physically or spiritually, to criticize this treaty...

[trixi1]

Kashmoney, you totally have me confused as to your stance and to why you may be here on this forum. You claim (at least I thought) by being here that if you recognize the name of the site WARONYOU, that it is a fight against anything that is trying to control or attack you [I, us, we...] and yet, you then claim that this particular issue is a non-issue and wonder why I brought it up. You further claim that when we point this stuff out (the targetting of our kids and the sexualizing of them and the targeting of the family unit [traditional]) that I am wasting my time and wonder if its just about the right that I [trixi] has the problem of teaching my kids about. Then, you have the ridiculous notion that we can't do anything about fighting the world government that you say is a sure thing and that you know this to be a fact is a waste of time.

What the heck is your stand on things because I'd be glad to hear it? As well, I live in Canada where you say you used to live [if I under stand correctly] and you also state that Canada isn't the place that it should be. You said you moved to Europe [again, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought you stated that you live in Greece] and say that you're not really seeing the attack on your freedoms that we're having over here [again, correct me, if I'm wrong].

So, please clarify because, even though in many respects, Canada may not be as 'bad' as the US or England, there are many many ways in which the same things are going on. Keep in mind that for the plan of the globalists [NWO], each westernized country has their part to have to carry out and then in turn, the part that country A may have already instituted, then country B institutes, and so forth, ie. gun control--even though the US hasn't carried out gun control legislation yet, Canada has by their faux pas of the long gun registry fiasco [though they still try to keep up the farce]. You'll see that many legislators in the US are trying to bring it in there. England has already gone their route, as well. Then you can also look at the 'hate speech' bills. Be careful what one says because it's being legislated by pro-corruption groups [think tanks and special interest groups] such as Planned Parenthood, GLTG Communities (gays, lesbians and trans-gendered peoples)--if we teach against it, then we are labeled as homophobes, etc. Then take the biggie! If we point out a crime that a person, who just happens to be Jewish [or at least portends to be], then we are labeled as being anti-semites. The particular 'race' of someone should have absolutely no standing when legitimately dealing with corruption but how come we can't question this fact? Think about that one for a bit and let it sink in.

So, back to my question, please clarify your stand because if I don't have the complete control over what I want my kids learning and/or not learning, then who is it that steals this control? This is not a small issue, not by a long shot.

Please answer and realize by dealing with issue by issue, this is how to bring their plans to a halt and reverse them, not by being complacent and 'accepting that all the world will be a world government'. That is how they want us to be. I'm not going to accept it, not without a fight.

By placing heat on themselves. There's a world gov't coming, you know it, I know it. Our biggest fault is choosing to fight it from every angle rather than picking the battles we can win, which doesn't produce favourable results. You want to 'stand your ground' on every single issue, go right ahead, just expect the heat. There just comes a time when you (whether you're an individual or group) may look at yourselves, destitute and spiritually empty, pulled down to what some refer to as 'rock bottom' - as a result of standing for your convictions on every fucking issue whether it's income-related, morality-related, feminism, whatever...and you're tired and BROKEN as a result from fighting all those battles for so damn long. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your morality and convictions to your graves. I'm personally seeing the light and that there is a life worth living, within the new laws of the world. I'll fight my battles when I have leverage, but I have to at least give myself a chance to earn it. You do it your way, and I'll do it mine.

Also, why do you consider someone who looks at every issue and fights it to not be gaining any ground or favorable results? You claim that one would find themselves 'destitute and spiritually empty...rock bottom' as you put it. You obviously don't know any of us here, and most certainly not me because it is firmly because of my spiritual conviction and love of God and His Son that I do what I do against world corruption. It is because of this fulfillment that I am angry and will fight the immorality being foisted on us and shoved down our throats.

But again, back to the question, what is your stand [please be thorough and not vague] on this because I would like to know.

trixi1

[kashmoney]

I should have you know that I only skimmed your reply. I refuse to absorb any negativity from someone I don't know, however did get the jist of what you're trying to say.

I have a right to change my position as often as I like, and this is precisely what happened. Propaganda is used to instill fear in people and from being here on this site for a week I'm convinced many on here are victims of fear mongering from the 'alternative' media.

You may be from Canada, but it's a big place, and our experiences are definitely not the same (as is evidenced from your use of words like 'heck' - sorry). I'm from T.O. and, with people from 180 countries, every religion and type of sexual orientation, the place definitely serves as a microcosm for the rest of the country. Ten years ago you couldn't breathe the word 'Jew' in a negative sense. Now people know what Zionism means and 'Jews' are protesting against Zionist oppression of the Palestinians. Denying that homosexuality was a learned behaviour was de facto discrimination. Now, people are understanding that perhaps those father-less boys are misguided in their desire for love from another male figure. What I'm trying to say is that the Truth will always come out in the end, and that is the case for everything whether it's politics or religion.

I suspect you didn't like my cracks at your religious beliefs - or maybe you don't like your 'moral' 'Christian' views challenged (as this UN treaty appears to do). Well, again, the Truth will come out and I hope it sets your children free. As for this 'treaty', have you even read the contents? I'm not talking about the summary on 'massresistance.org' - to get yourself worked up over an opinion piece is irresponsible. I've listed the contents below with my comments. As for replying to my post - pardon me - but I'm not really interested in discussing this with you. I have not the time nor the patience to deal with people so thoroughly indoctrined by religion. You are thousands of miles away from me in a physical, mental and spiritual sense and it would be a waste of time.  I was raised as a Christian and went to Catholic school, see where you're coming from and have been exposed to the same propaganda and theories. To even think that I would ever be drawn an iota back to that way of thinking is laughable.

***

Children would have the ability to choose their own religion while parents would only have the authority to give their children advice about religion.13.

(fair, especially for Christian/muslim girls)

The best interest of the child principle would give the government the ability to override every decision made by every parent if a government worker disagreed with the parent’s decision.14.

(fair, especially in instances of young girls being forced to marry or denied education)

A child’s “right to be heard” would allow him (or her) to seek governmental review of every parental decision with which the child disagreed.15.

(fair)

According to existing interpretation, it would be illegal for a nation to spend more on national defense than it does on children’s welfare.16.

(fair)

Children would acquire a legally enforceable right to leisure.17.

(this is probably regarding child labour/slavery)


Christian schools that refuse to teach "alternative worldviews" and teach that Christianity is the only true religion "fly in the face of article 29" of the treaty.18.

(fair. they should actually take it a step further and outlaw religious schools altogether)


Allowing parents to opt their children out of sex education has been held to be out of compliance with the CRC.19.

(there should be an addendum to this rule that makes it mandatory that parental consent be required before administration of birth control/hormonal methods of contraception. the dangers of abortion should also be made very clear)

Children would have the right to reproductive health information and services, including abortions,  without parental knowledge or consent.20.

(wrong, imo)


Parents would no longer be able to administer reasonable spankings to their children.11.

(absolutely, positively, and without question - fair)

A murderer aged 17 years and 11 months and 29 days at the time of his crime could no longer be sentenced to life in prison.12.

(open to discussion. prison-sentences are not a deterrent for violent crime)

[kashmoney]

Brandon, I'm sorry to say, but I don't think you read the treaty either. Like you, I spent many years as a "lone soldier" and I don't think it's people like us that effect change - it's the owners of moderately sized media that get the message out. These things change with the tide, we're just drops in the ocean. When I say 'choose your battles' I'm saying to use your energy to fight what you can win. Spending time on these message boards, or on the internet is ineffective imo, like 'online' petitions. You want to effect change? Then work with the system, get some money and BUY yourself some influence. 

If you think there's no world gov't you're wrong. The monetary system, the only power that counts is already being run on a worldwide scale. We already HAVE world gov't, got it? Everyone's in debt to the Int'l bankers, the rulers of the world. The US dollar will fall, that will usher in a new currency, and then they'll really be set. Does this conflict with the optimism in my message to Trixi? It shouldn't. I believe things have to get bad...real bad...before they get better. I'm not being apathetic, just changing my strategy. I know EXACTLY what's going on, there's a big difference. You have to get within the system, learn how it works. Keep your friends close, your enemies closer...get what I'm saying? I got more cliches if you haven't.

You say 'no compromise'...I say 'compromise'. People who refused to compromise got crushed, or now grace the front of cheap t-shirts in every tourist district in the world, they're true message forgotten forever. I see a better way.

Read the treaty. It's really not that bad. Just the part about getting hormonal birth control and abortion without permission. In that case it's up to the parents to explain to the girls about what really happens to their organs during abortion. That 'the pill' will make them fat and bloated. But you know what, kids are getting smarter these days anyways. I'm not worried.

[kashmoney]

You know what Trixi, i re-read my reply and it seems rude. Rather than being a coward and editing, I'm willing to say that I'd be willing to debate some points of the treaty, but please...I don't have the strength these days to withstand the use of phrases like "love of God and His Son". It's disgusting and insults my intelligence. A Muslim will not tell you upfront that women are lower-class citizens. A Jew will not say to your face that they are superior, being a member of "God's chosen people". In the same vein I only ask that you kindly exercise the same courtesy by not referring to the driving force of the universe as an old man in the sky. Thanks.