Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet

[LewWar]

Raymond Ronald Karczewski
http://www.kookpedia.net/index.php/Raymond_Ronald_Karczewski

Posting under the mantra of his status as a "Christ" and a "sovereign" his obnoxious style tends to alienate even fellow militia kooks resulting in his eventual ban from moderated forums.

Having skimmed through these pages, on one level, I must wonder if Ray is trying to disturb the forum.  I mean look at the online arguing. I'm here to learn and open my mind, but I don't want religious stuff forced down my throat and a quick search finds that Ray has been disrupting forums for some time.

[trixi1]

Ray, your unbelievable arrogance totally floors me. I'll let your hypocritical stance and words speak for themselves.

Oh, and as for accusing me of the 'typical phony Christian Signoff', that is completely where you have lied again outright. It is with complete arrogance and deception that you state that.

I KNOW the Lord God in Heaven, I don't believe, or just merely have faith. It is with that knowledge, with surety, that I can represent Him, as one example on this lowly earth.

As for claiming that I am just spouting other 'man's words', the words I type are my own. For putting in the Biblical scriptures, those words are not of 'other men' as you claim but the very words of God Himself who only used men to communicate His written word. It is with your arrogance that you most assuredly have yourself deluded and enjoy your cult-like following.

Enjoy the lonely road ahead because that road won't get you out of spiritual bondage. This life is all but short and, though I said I wouldn't say anything to you again, because of your arrogance, I felt this was absolutely needed for clarity and to show your hypocrisy for what it is worth.

Don't look for further replies because they won't be coming from me. I have said everything there is to say to you. Let God inform you of the rest.

[SimonBarSinister]

There is a diagnosis for people like you, Ray: Megalomania. I don't have time for that shit.

[Deceived]

 

I know this is only my second post here, but c'mon.  I really can't believe this New Age bullshit is even getting the time of day.  If this dude wants to live in his own little delusional, elitist world where everyone else is satanic, let him.  To be honest, he just sounds like every other attention whore I've ever encountered.  

Peace

[brandon dean]

Brandon Dean, this is no attack on you.  On the contrary.  You and Rainchild are performing a spiritual service to all on the forum by exposing your emotional reactions to simple truth being stated.  

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

 

yeah, I'm being so emotional.  wow, christ, you really have me figured out.  fucking MORON.  see, I call you a fucking moron, because you ARE a moron.

"boy you've really hit the ground running."  

hahahahahahahaha  oooohhhhh widdle ray found someone to listen to his bullshit!  how sweet!

we're all just bitter emotionally distracted dilettantes around here.

"you go girl"

that's about as stupid as when george w bush tried to rap.  

here is a photo of ray:


"you go girl."  can't you just picture the above old man saying the previous quote?  sounds like something you've been conditioned to say from the satanist box, huh ray?

we got wackos from the future, we got wackos from christ, and we got wackos defending him.  this is quite the thrill ride.  I don't know how I'll ever calm down, I'm SO emotional...

[brandon dean]

I know this is only my second post here, but c'mon.  I really can't believe this New Age bullshit is even getting the time of day.  If this dude wants to live in his own little delusional, elitist world where everyone else is satanic, let him.  To be honest, he just sounds like every other attention whore I've ever encountered.  

Peace

haha of course you're totally right, but this is entertaining.  especially when he gets someone to play devil's advocate for him.

believe me though, I've been being entertained by this asshat for about a year, and he never gives up..  we're all satanists, don't you know?

ray wants me to ban him so he'll have another notch on his cross of self-martyrdom...  that's what makes this entertaining...

[kashmoney]

Re: Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet

Ka-sha, You have certainly hit the ground running, haven't you?  You share the brunt of attack upon any mirror of Truth.

Thanks. While I am a quick learner I have to come clean in admitting that I've had practice in debating this very concept with my friends for some time now. It's romantic to think that here in the land where Plato and Socrates once conversed we still carry on that tradition. And it's true...we do, all the time! I'm still here though because I see your point in trying to get the message across but I'll only address those worthy of addressing. The thing is though, this is getting boring, as some people here just don't understand. In comparison, debating about this here in Athens is a walk in the park as people know how to engage in conversations with civility. I don't want to depress you, but we have conversations on a whole other level. I'm sure you'd enjoy addressing such issues as whether priests (a paid gov't job in Greece) exist purposely to block or convince us we cannot have a direct relationship with God, what texts Constantine purposely leave out when they canonized the books of the bible, and why; and the effect of drugs - if they reprogram the brain in such a way that the voice of the inner can no longer speak clearly to us. Yesterday, while out for lunch we discussed the voice of consciousness and how loudly it speaks within the criminal mind.

This morning, with another friend he proposed (after hearing of my new insight) that foraging into the inner is dangerous because we may actually have several voices speaking to us, not all of them pure and good. A couple months ago, while speaking with a very dear friend overseas, he advised I be careful at this stage of my spiritual development for this very reason. The former claims that it's best we do this through a medium (i.e. a priest) and that it's dangerous to engage in deep prayer/meditation when you're not ready. For the sake of the lurkers out there, I'd like to ask here on the forum what your insight is on this topic. Just so you know, I rebutted by stating that our intake of stimulants and level (and source) of 'noise' (i.e. the media) has a profound effect on how we interpret the message - that the message is still the Truth.

[kashmoney]

For putting in the Biblical scriptures, those words are not of 'other men' as you claim but the very words of God Himself who only used men to communicate His written word.

Look, she doesn't know the history of what happened in the Eastern Roman empire, much less the meaning of the word 'canonization', or how 'His written word' came about or who wrote it.

I don't even think Christ would have bothered! I'm not going to waste my time or energy, and I refuse to feel guilty about it!

[brandon dean]

Re: Typical Example of Satanic conditioned Ignorance on the Internet

Ka-sha, You have certainly hit the ground running, haven't you?  You share the brunt of attack upon any mirror of Truth.

Thanks. While I am a quick learner I have to come clean in admitting that I've had practice in debating this very concept with my friends for some time now. It's romantic to think that here in the land where Plato and Socrates once conversed we still carry on that tradition. And it's true...we do, all the time! I'm still here though because I see your point in trying to get the message across but I'll only address those worthy of addressing. The thing is though, this is getting boring, as some people here just don't understand. In comparison, debating about this here in Athens is a walk in the park as people know how to engage in conversations with civility. I don't want to depress you, but we have conversations on a whole other level. I'm sure you'd enjoy addressing such issues as whether priests (a paid gov't job in Greece) exist purposely to block or convince us we cannot have a direct relationship with God, what texts Constantine purposely leave out when they canonized the books of the bible, and why; and the effect of drugs - if they reprogram the brain in such a way that the voice of the inner can no longer speak clearly to us. Yesterday, while out for lunch we discussed the voice of consciousness and how loudly it speaks within the criminal mind.

This morning, with another friend he proposed (after hearing of my new insight) that foraging into the inner is dangerous because we may actually have several voices speaking to us, not all of them pure and good. A couple months ago, while speaking with a very dear friend overseas, he advised I be careful at this stage of my spiritual development for this very reason. The former claims that it's best we do this through a medium (i.e. a priest) and that it's dangerous to engage in deep prayer/meditation when you're not ready. For the sake of the lurkers out there, I'd like to ask here on the forum what your insight is on this topic. Just so you know, I rebutted by stating that our intake of stimulants and level (and source) of 'noise' (i.e. the media) has a profound effect on how we interpret the message - that the message is still the Truth.

 

apparently ray and kasha are the only ones here who have studied the "concept" of inner-christ-consciousness.  no one else here has been contemplating the esoteric for their whole lifetimes..

but I guess some people understand the difference between debate and calling everyone who disagrees with you satanists.

none of us can or will take the time to understand poor, misunderstood ray.  he needs you to defend him and validate what he says.

one last time: ray's "concepts" are as old as the hills, and most people here have been thinking about it their whole lives, as opposed to "practicing" with their friends for the last couple years.

but RAY does not want to "discuss" anything--he wants to be revered as a prophet and a martyr, because he has nothing else to hold on to at this point in life.

[kashmoney]

Ray, you can write me an email instead. These assholes don't deserve an iota of attention (and please pardon the expression).