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« on: November 04, 2009, 08:54:09 AM »

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MURDER SUSPECT CHASED IN DADE 11/04/09

Trenton City Police received a BOLO report on a murder suspect from Cobb County, GA Tuesday night and made contact with the vehicle just before 10 PM on I-24 westbound.  The vehicle was being tracked by following the location of his cell-phone.    Trenton Police Department and Dade deputies chased the 1998 Ford Explorer into Marion County on I-24 West where he was finally stopped at Haletown.

All U.S. carriers are under Federal Communications Commission orders to make it possible for police to locate cell phones calling 911.  One can be tracked with a cell phone, whether one calls 911 or not.  

And for civillians, sites like World tracker ( http://www.world-tracker.com/v4/ ) lets anyone track using GPS and cell tower locations.  There's Flexi Spy to catch your "cheating wife" or so they claim.  http://www.flexispy.com/?ref=1252800


Some say taking the battery out doesn't protect one.

Answers?  Solutions?  I don't really have any.  Perhaps don't use a cell phone, for your own privacy and health?  Or Buy a Tracphone for $15 and a 60 minute card for $20 and then smash it?  

Study secretly tracks cell phone users outside US
http://web.archive.org/web/20080607180829/http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SCI_CELL_PHONE_TRACKING?SITE=OHALL2&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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Paul Stephens, policy director at the Privacy Rights Clearinghouse in San Diego, said the nonconsensual part of the study raises the Big Brother issue.

"It certainly is a major concern for people who basically don't like to be tracked and shouldn't be tracked without their knowledge," Stephens said.
-from the 2008 article about the secret study

Now, about the murder suspect above.  Well, some may say I'm crazy...but I don't care.  Let some citizen shoot him because that citizen is armed.  Or let the murder suspect escape.  Or get caught another way.  I wish that the murder suspect would have known not to carry a cell phone and probably was calling folks on it too.  And who's to say whether one is a "suspect" of this crime or that crime? 

I guess I'm just upset because the people in my hometown are thankful that Big Brother protected them from an "evil murderer" this morning...
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2009, 09:13:11 AM »

The police also use On-Star as their personal tracker and the shut-down feature is nice for them too.

Now, about the murder suspect above.  Well, some may say I'm crazy...but I don't care.  Let some citizen shoot him because that citizen is armed.  Or let the murder suspect escape.  Or get caught another way.  I wish that the murder suspect would have known not to carry a cell phone and probably was calling folks on it too.  And who's to say whether one is a "suspect" of this crime or that crime? 

I guess I'm just upset because the people in my hometown are thankful that Big Brother protected them from an "evil murderer" this morning...


I am with you here. People are becoming so reliant on Big Brother and all his little toys that thinking for ones self is obsolete and becoming criminal.  Sounds an awful lot like a book I once read. 1984 come to mind? People are willing to give up rights and freedoms for the next big thing. New phones and new cars that track you and your friends, they can stick those up their asses as far as I am concerned. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 03:02:09 PM »

The police also use On-Star as their personal tracker and the shut-down feature is nice for them too.



I know someone that used their GPS and drove into the Tennessee River by following the instructions even though the River was in front of them!

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Stalling Cars Via OnStar: A Hacker's Dream Come True?

Greetings. Ready to turn over the keys of your vehicle to the cops, or that clever hacker in the next lane? How about that creepy guy following you on a lonely country road?

GM apparently plans to perhaps make this all possible. It's been announced that they'll be equipping nearly two million of their 2009 model vehicles (that have OnStar installed), with the capability to be remotely shut down to idle via OnStar commands at the request of law enforcement.

The claim is that owners will have to give permission first for this capability to be enabled. Bull. I don't care what OnStar's privacy policy says, if the technical capability for this function is present, OnStar will have no practical choice but to comply when faced with a law enforcement demand or court order, whether or not owner "permission" was ever granted.

This new capability will also create an irresistible challenge to the hacker community -- and perhaps criminal organizations -- to try find ways into the OnStar system for triggering this fun -- one way or another. It's impossible to hack OnStar? Would you bet your life on that?

Unfortunately, this is yet another laudable idea that's being "driven" into the marketplace before all of the negative ramifications have been thought through or fully understood. And how long will it be before such systems are mandated, one might wonder?

OnStar has long been the subject of various privacy concerns. This new capability appears to be the most serious privacy-related issue for OnStar to date.

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2009, 03:25:44 PM »

The police also use On-Star as their personal tracker and the shut-down feature is nice for them too.



I know someone that used their GPS and drove into the Tennessee River by following the instructions even though the River was in front of them!



Now that just shows you how dumbed down people are getting.  HAHAHAH
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2009, 03:54:05 PM »

Many people are ready to give up their rights because they are to lazy to be a good parent. My parents did not have all of these toys but they still knew when I was screwing up.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 06:31:58 PM »

Many people are ready to give up their rights because they are to lazy to be a good parent. My parents did not have all of these toys but they still knew when I was screwing up.

You have that right. My Dad can still get the truth out of me just by looking at me.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 06:44:28 PM »

Many people are ready to give up their rights because they are to lazy to be a good parent. My parents did not have all of these toys but they still knew when I was screwing up.

You have that right. My Dad can still get the truth out of me just by looking at me.
Yes and when He is looking at you, then you can feel it without looking to see. Right.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2009, 12:00:49 PM »

Many people are ready to give up their rights because they are to lazy to be a good parent. My parents did not have all of these toys but they still knew when I was screwing up.

You have that right. My Dad can still get the truth out of me just by looking at me.
Yes and when He is looking at you, then you can feel it without looking to see. Right.

Sure can. I was never just handed anything and taught to earn everything.

These technological toys these people are so fond of these days are exactly the kinds of things I was taught to not trust.
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