Comments on: 9/11 Shock Opera… Act 4 – Building 7 and Flight 93: The Grand Finale that Wasn’t http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/ War on you (mind, body and soul) Breaking Alternative News without Bias corporate Views Mon, 30 Jan 2012 06:32:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sg http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-57324 Sg Sat, 12 Jun 2010 14:24:50 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-57324 Right Wing Lunatic's "argument from personal incredulity" is an extremely weak argument -- an argument based on a logical fallacy. Spelling errors are one thing, but arguments based on logical fallacies are quite another! Pretending that a thesis is wrong simply because you perceive problems with an argument supporting it is also quite sad. Here are some very good arguments about WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall of WTC7 *Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA (10 min) *Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTlaqXsm4k (10 min) *Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw (10 min) Some things will not go according to plan; the unexpected should be expected. However, what can always be expected is that the 80/20 rule applies to knowledge within society -- 20% of people know much more than most people. Think about it: A significant portion of the population being ignorant about logical fallacies, history and current political realities so they delude themselves unwittingly. Start promoting the 9/11 alternative narrative to people for yourself just to see whether people who reject it do so with good arguments. You will find this almost never happens. Then you will have learned something about argumentation and human nature. Dealing with the public is a matter of counterintelligence, and this is why intelligence agencies care about the media From famed Watergate reporter: "The CIA and the Media: How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up" http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php Controlling investigations is another means to the same end. (Do I have to provide you links for everything? You need links for information about planes being intercepted very regularly? Really? How ignorant are you? This information has been discussed so often.) Right Wing Lunatic’s “argument from personal incredulity” is an extremely weak argument — an argument based on a logical fallacy.

Spelling errors are one thing, but arguments based on logical fallacies are quite another!

Pretending that a thesis is wrong simply because you perceive problems with an argument supporting it is also quite sad.

Here are some very good arguments about WTC7:

NIST Finally Admits Freefall of WTC7
*Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA (10 min)
*Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTlaqXsm4k (10 min)
*Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw (10 min)

Some things will not go according to plan; the unexpected should be expected. However, what can always be expected is that the 80/20 rule applies to knowledge within society — 20% of people know much more than most people.

Think about it: A significant portion of the population being ignorant about logical fallacies, history and current political realities so they delude themselves unwittingly.

Start promoting the 9/11 alternative narrative to people for yourself just to see whether people who reject it do so with good arguments. You will find this almost never happens. Then you will have learned something about argumentation and human nature.

Dealing with the public is a matter of counterintelligence, and this is why intelligence agencies care about the media

From famed Watergate reporter: “The CIA and the Media: How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up”
http://carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php

Controlling investigations is another means to the same end. (Do I have to provide you links for everything? You need links for information about planes being intercepted very regularly? Really? How ignorant are you? This information has been discussed so often.)

]]> By: Jef Wallace http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-11954 Jef Wallace Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:06:37 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-11954 Right Wing Lunatic - your sarcasm is so false, it smacks of "government agency". Like, you are harsh, unhelpful, unfunny... all in all mean and stupid, without evaluating a god damn thing. You read, truly, like a lunatic - I am imagining Brad Pitt in 12 monkeys. Your very existence is frightening. I guess if "they" have infinite funds, they are able to hire teams of assholes like you to put down seekers of truth when we pop up. Right Wing Lunatic – your sarcasm is so false, it smacks of “government agency”. Like, you are harsh, unhelpful, unfunny… all in all mean and stupid, without evaluating a god damn thing. You read, truly, like a lunatic – I am imagining Brad Pitt in 12 monkeys. Your very existence is frightening. I guess if “they” have infinite funds, they are able to hire teams of assholes like you to put down seekers of truth when we pop up.

]]> By: Jef Wallace http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-11952 Jef Wallace Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:33:10 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-11952 It would be a LOT more interesting to do a movie about OUR version of events. Seriously. It would make a great movie. Sort of like a fight club full of Mossad! It would be a LOT more interesting to do a movie about OUR version of events. Seriously. It would make a great movie. Sort of like a fight club full of Mossad!

]]> By: srini kumar http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-11951 srini kumar Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:29:56 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-11951 Don't forget: "They" made an ENTIRE FEATURE LENGTH MOVIE that went out in REAL CINEMAS about the official version of this flight. You are seriously onto something here. Flight 93 + WTC7 ==> two loose ends, tied together so neatly. I applaud. Don’t forget:

“They” made an ENTIRE FEATURE LENGTH MOVIE that went out in REAL CINEMAS about the official version of this flight.

You are seriously onto something here. Flight 93 + WTC7 ==> two loose ends, tied together so neatly. I applaud.

]]> By: Right Wing Lunatic http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-4222 Right Wing Lunatic Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:25:21 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-4222 Yep, you've really put the clamps on the Neo Cons' attempt to rule the world. Freakin' Skull & Bones! Honestly, these right wing nuts, with their encoded currency and evangelical rhetoric. Who do they think they are to fly planes into buildings wired with demolition-specific explosives? Don't they know they'll eventually be rooted out and dealt with by concerned citizens such as you? I mean, of course they couldn't think of a better method through which to dispose of investigative documents than to demolish the buildings in which those documents are housed; idiots! Think of it this way, Jerry Falwell & Co.: Rat poison, schmat schmoison! Don't you know it's common knowledge to fight rodent infestation by blowing up one's own house? If one has a rat problem, there are two easy steps: Blow up the houses of one's neighbors, then blow up one's own house. It will surely alleviate the problem. Never mind pest controllers; they're probably the ones who planted the rats in your house to begin with. Better to just avoid them altogether. (Corporate pigs!) Seriously, dude. Regardless of your argument, and the spacious waste of time that allowed you to develop it, at least make your sonata viable. You can start by using spell-check. You can follow up this easy step by citing ALL of your sources, not just those with which your argument agrees (Really, planes are intercepted every day? REALLY?). Anyway, your shock-pera, or whatever you're calling it, was entertaining, if nothing else. I really enjoyed your covert smiley; it wasn't stupid. So, what's next? You gonna delve into the roots of Western Civ. and write about how Alexander didn't really conquer the Mediterranean and the Near East in the name Macedon, but that he was actually an ascendant of Dan Quayle? Can't wait! Yep, you’ve really put the clamps on the Neo Cons’ attempt to rule the world. Freakin’ Skull & Bones! Honestly, these right wing nuts, with their encoded currency and evangelical rhetoric. Who do they think they are to fly planes into buildings wired with demolition-specific explosives? Don’t they know they’ll eventually be rooted out and dealt with by concerned citizens such as you? I mean, of course they couldn’t think of a better method through which to dispose of investigative documents than to demolish the buildings in which those documents are housed; idiots!

Think of it this way, Jerry Falwell & Co.: Rat poison, schmat schmoison! Don’t you know it’s common knowledge to fight rodent infestation by blowing up one’s own house? If one has a rat problem, there are two easy steps: Blow up the houses of one’s neighbors, then blow up one’s own house. It will surely alleviate the problem. Never mind pest controllers; they’re probably the ones who planted the rats in your house to begin with. Better to just avoid them altogether. (Corporate pigs!)

Seriously, dude. Regardless of your argument, and the spacious waste of time that allowed you to develop it, at least make your sonata viable. You can start by using spell-check. You can follow up this easy step by citing ALL of your sources, not just those with which your argument agrees (Really, planes are intercepted every day? REALLY?).

Anyway, your shock-pera, or whatever you’re calling it, was entertaining, if nothing else. I really enjoyed your covert smiley; it wasn’t stupid.

So, what’s next? You gonna delve into the roots of Western Civ. and write about how Alexander didn’t really conquer the Mediterranean and the Near East in the name Macedon, but that he was actually an ascendant of Dan Quayle? Can’t wait!

]]> By: Terry Conspiracy http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-2888 Terry Conspiracy Tue, 26 May 2009 21:29:00 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-2888 Great job my friend, this is pretty much the way I see it was planned to unfold myself. Having you put it to print like this, helps me stay the course of ridicule from so many that I know. I am a political activist, so a lot of my friends are journalists & political activists, & they of course will be the very last groups of society to see the truth. What is it that stops so many otherwise responsible professionals from investigating the unanswered questions ? Well done ! Great job my friend, this is pretty much the way I see it was planned to unfold myself.

Having you put it to print like this, helps me stay the course of ridicule from so many that I know. I am a political activist, so a lot of my friends are journalists & political activists, & they of course will be the very last groups of society to see the truth.

What is it that stops so many otherwise responsible professionals from investigating the unanswered questions ?

Well done !

]]> By: Xoma http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-2867 Xoma Tue, 26 May 2009 11:57:12 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-2867 @Lennon: A lot less people would need to be involved in a thing like this than you think. There have been, and still are, illegal task teams in the US under the direct command of the president carrying out covert actions with extreme secrecy and ferocious loyalty, among which you find coup d'etats, murdering foregin politicians, importing drugs and shipping illegal prisoners of war to secret jails all over the planet to be tortured. While (most of) the operations are well known and is classed as common knowledge today, it usually took several decades for any information to be revealed, noone involved ever snitched, and the general public still kind of distrusts anyone discussing the issues since it's so unbelieavable that an allegedly democratic government would really perpetrate crimes of that nature against humanity, democracy and civilization. All those actions were carried out by small cells of extremely well-trained men. In fact, it would be very odd if the world's greatest military power lacked those kinds of task teams, and lacked the kind of people willing to be part of them. You take one hundred of your most loyal guys, probably from within the ranks of your already old and experienced mafia-like organization, make sure to reward them for their silence and cooperation and you'll be all set- I doubt anyone would ever talk considering they know what their bosses are capable of: If they do all these things to people all over the world without showing the slightest signs of guilt, remorse or human decency, just imagine what they would do to a snitch and his family when he turned on them. @Lennon: A lot less people would need to be involved in a thing like this than you think. There have been, and still are, illegal task teams in the US under the direct command of the president carrying out covert actions with extreme secrecy and ferocious loyalty, among which you find coup d’etats, murdering foregin politicians, importing drugs and shipping illegal prisoners of war to secret jails all over the planet to be tortured. While (most of) the operations are well known and is classed as common knowledge today, it usually took several decades for any information to be revealed, noone involved ever snitched, and the general public still kind of distrusts anyone discussing the issues since it’s so unbelieavable that an allegedly democratic government would really perpetrate crimes of that nature against humanity, democracy and civilization. All those actions were carried out by small cells of extremely well-trained men. In fact, it would be very odd if the world’s greatest military power lacked those kinds of task teams, and lacked the kind of people willing to be part of them. You take one hundred of your most loyal guys, probably from within the ranks of your already old and experienced mafia-like organization, make sure to reward them for their silence and cooperation and you’ll be all set- I doubt anyone would ever talk considering they know what their bosses are capable of: If they do all these things to people all over the world without showing the slightest signs of guilt, remorse or human decency, just imagine what they would do to a snitch and his family when he turned on them.

]]> By: Lennon http://waronyou.com/topics/911-shock-opera%e2%80%a6-act-4-%e2%80%93-building-7-and-flight-93-the-grand-finale-that-wasn%e2%80%99t/comment-page-1/#comment-2858 Lennon Tue, 26 May 2009 06:58:04 +0000 http://waronyou.com/?p=1940#comment-2858 Very interesting article and view on the subject. Clearly there is so much more to 9/11 that we are not being told. What about the fact that so many people had to be involved for this plan to be carried out. It seems that some of these people would come forward out of respect for their country. I do realize that would be career or maybe even utter suicide. I guess people will do and say anything to keep their jobs. I guess that might be the case for me if I had a job or even some money. Do you really think any government officials will ever be charged will war crimes because I don't see it happening. To many people have been worped by misinformation and they don't have it in them to believe something like this. I tell people about specific instances that just don't add up and have been physically attacked on more then one occassion. Your building 7 theory does make sense and thanks for the post. I have a burning hatred for the Bush Administration that will never go away. Very interesting article and view on the subject. Clearly there is so much more to 9/11 that we are not being told. What about the fact that so many people had to be involved for this plan to be carried out. It seems that some of these people would come forward out of respect for their country. I do realize that would be career or maybe even utter suicide. I guess people will do and say anything to keep their jobs. I guess that might be the case for me if I had a job or even some money. Do you really think any government officials will ever be charged will war crimes because I don’t see it happening. To many people have been worped by misinformation and they don’t have it in them to believe something like this. I tell people about specific instances that just don’t add up and have been physically attacked on more then one occassion. Your building 7 theory does make sense and thanks for the post. I have a burning hatred for the Bush Administration that will never go away.

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